Thread: 大唐双龙传 [Da Tang Shuang Long Zhuan] by Huang Yi

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    we have today inflate the term and call every son of a rich family a 公子and daughter 公主

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    I remember the old advertisement of Aston Martin, a car for the King of Men, and Prince of Women.

    So a rich boy that have a lot of time seems to be more attractive to women???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 徐中銳 View Post
    Similar to TVB adaptations, beautifying the source for audiences ?



    「多情公子」is indeed more subtle, nuanced suits his current development as an ally of 徐子陵?Calling him a prince, on first impression, do count against him ? 多情,sentimental ? He's more the sentimental-gentleman ?

    Incidentally, 「東溟派公主」
    Yeah, you can say it that way i guess beautying for audiences. However, i like how foxs does keep some of the idioms. Like word for word i guess. Someone who understands more can add in an explanation. Like the idiom little mans heart measuring and honest mans waist I think we might have some no chinese readers here. I would write something to explain, but chinese is second language for me so i dont have a full grasp of how to explain it.

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    It really means someone had good intentions. However you think the person is lying/scheming. When you realize the person is well intentioned. Youre like oh men i was thinking ill of him when he was being righteous etc. pretty much the part when hxb covers the sense from that chick but he suggests putting on a hat before he applies the dist to the hat

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    1, please re read how the book explain the idealism of fa jan pai

    2, I have already in my previous post state that most characters in this book are not pure good or pure evil, that have some of both side and are relatively glay, please check previous posts.

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    As you know, 雞同鴨講,it's indisputable that if the details aren't precise we can't talk about the storyhow well constructed it actually is.

    I'll save a more thorough analysis for another time.

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    In my opinion HY have do great research in many of his book and have strong interest in spiritual path for a lot of his book outside yuen wan wuxia touch upon this theme, and he may even be a practitioner, I think he intentionally change one of the word/name of authentic code as practice of Chinese old faction scholar to name of very respected individual.
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    L'enfer est plein de bonnes volonts ou dsirs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance23 View Post
    It really means someone had good intentions.
    I know more than I can express in words, and the little I can express would not have been expressed, had I not known more. 弗拉基米爾弗拉基米羅維奇納博科夫

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    小人之心 Had to use google translate. My mando isnt great had to type pronounciatuon to get tue characters to show up. Measure gents waist. Will take time to figure out how to get

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    小人之心度君子之腹. There got the full saying. If someone with better grasp of cantonese/mandarin wants to give non chinese readers a better explanation than what i typed earlier

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    Cantonese for me let's say 軍子之腹。

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    小人之心度君子之腹. There got the full saying. If someone with better grasp of cantonese/mandarin wants to give non chinese readers a better explanation than what i typed earlier
    I know more than I can express in words, and the little I can express would not have been expressed, had I not known more. 弗拉基米爾弗拉基米羅維奇納博科夫

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    Default Book 24 Chapter 11 - Part 1

    HPC, Ysabel, Jaya, you are welcome. Shirak, sorry, wrong guess this time. Sky, I cant help thinking that you are talking about special effects. Lance, Akolaw, I was shocked to see so many posts since my last update (more than 20, I think). My understanding is like when you press your hand against a surface, you will leave a print, an image, an impression, not a seal. But what do I know? Chinese is not my first language either. I reserve the right to be wrong. Anyway, fourteen chapters to describe one evening Huang Yi surely talked a lot.


    Book 24 Chapter 11 Dividing the Color of Spring Evenly

    Under everybodys blank stare, An Long covered his chest with his left hand, while his right hand that was holding the Print Scroll was trembling slightly; his face was devoid of any blood, his eyes stared fixedly on the mother earth resplendent under the bright moonlight outside the hole, his face showed a hard-to-believe expression with a hint of deep fear in it.

    Who could make this martial art master who ranked among the demonic ways hall of fame to lose his normal state in such a big way?

    Shi Qingxuan, who was leaning against the wall, suddenly had her tender body shaking. Without a word she floated out of the hall via the hole on the wall, and disappeared without any trace.

    With this sudden change, it was too late for Xu Ziling to stop her. After exchanging an eye signal, Xu Ziling and Hou Xibai made their move at the same time to pounce toward An Long. No matter who was forcing An Long back, they simply had to snatch the Print Scroll back from him before doing anything else.

    Upon seeing this rapid and pressing change, Yang Xuyans mind was bewildered and was at a loss of what to do; he shouted loudly, An Shu [uncle], be careful!

    Hearing the shout, An Long looked like he had just woken up from a nightmare; he haphazardly tossed the Print Scroll upward and roared, Its none of my business! And then he fled in the opposite direction of the hole on the wall and smashed another big hole on the wall and ran away.

    Hou Xibai and Yang Xuyan had no interest in paying him any attention; they both soared up to chase after the Print Scroll, which very soon would reach the roof of the hall.

    Xu Ziling was afraid Wanwan might mount sneak attack, he did not move from where he was standing to keep watch over Wanwans movement with full attention.

    He noticed that the beauty did not move from where she was standing either, as if she already lost interest toward Hou and Yang, two mens fight over the scroll. Turning a blind eye and turning a deaf ear, she appeared to be deep in thought, while staring fixedly at the hole from which An Long was coming back.

    Xu Zilings heart was moved; he kind of had an idea who was outside the hole that An Long was forced to come back. In fact, it was not difficult to guess. Under the heavens, the person who could make An Long so panic and losing his mind, other than Ning Daoqi, Zhu Yuyan, Shi Zhixuan, and the likes, there were very few people. And among those people, the only one directly related to this matter was Shi Zhixuan; so most likely it was he.

    Thinking about this Xie Wang [demonic king] Shi Zhixuan, he could not help feeling the chill in the air.

    A continuous ringing of the fan and the sword clashing against each other was heard from the roof of the hall, followed by Hou Xibai and Yang Xuyan separately landed on Xu Zilings left and right sides, looking at each other with glaring eyes; unexpectedly each man had half of the Print Scroll in their hands.

    Xu Ziling could not help but was dumbfounded.

    Wanwan let out a faint sigh and spoke glibly, This is perhaps the best solution. Nujia wont accompany you anymore!

    Suddenly flying backward, she floated out of the hall via the main entrance.

    Qiang!

    Yang Xuyan returned the sword into its scabbard; his eyes shone with flashes of lightning. After looking back and forth between Xu Ziling and Hou Xibai several times, he let out a cold humph and flew toward the hole on the wall and disappeared.

    The main hall returned to its previously tranquil condition, with only the broken debris of the shattered statues remained on the floor.

    Xu Ziling looked at Hou Xibai. The latter withdrew his stare from the remaining half of the scroll; smiling wryly, he said, Xiaodi agree with Miss Wan a little bit; this is perhaps the only way to resolve this matter, everybody loses.

    Xu Ziling asked, The one who forced An Long to come back, was it your esteemed Master?

    Shaking his head, Hou Xibai replied, It does not seem so. Although Shi Shi rarely makes his move, but once he does, somebody will lose his life. I think Yang Xuyan did not believe that it was Shi Shi either. As for who that actually was, if there is someone who knows everything under the heavens, Xiaodi also wish that that person could answer me.

    Xu Ziling could not help asking, How long has Hou Xiong not seen your esteemed Master?

    Playing it down, Hou Xibai replied, I am afraid seven or eight years!

    It seemed to Xu Ziling that he did not want to talk about anything related to Shi Zhixuan; changing the subject, he said, I am so glad I am able to make friends with an affectionate and true friend like Ziling tonight. Just now Xiaodi exerted my strength in desperate fight and received a bit of injury, I must find a place to recuperate. If in the next few days Ziling is going to stay in Chengdu, Xiaodi might look for you to drink wine and have a long talk.

    Raising half of the scroll in his hand high, he smiled and said, I am really grateful. Please! Finished speaking, he went out through the hole, in a confident and at ease manner.

    The little bit of candlelight has just stopped burning, but soon afterwards the main hall was brightening up, because it was already dawn.

    Thinking about last nights perilous experience has given him the feeling that the ability to see morning light was actually very precious.

    By the time Xu Ziling stepped out of the wall, the sky was already bright.

    Suddenly there was a crisp Ding Dong! sound from the pagoda in the distance. Looking toward that direction, he vaguely saw a copper bell hanging from a corner of the pagodas eaves. When the mountain breeze was blowing, the bell created a clear, beautiful sound, which chased away the anxiety of the earth from the peoples heart.

    There was a narrow street lined with walls next to the Luohan Hall, where flowers and trees were well-spaced, providing profound and unfathomable, dense shade; it was extremely enticing.

    Thinking that since he had nothing to do anyway, he might as well pay a casual visit before leaving Sichuan and rushing over to meet with Kou Zhong, and then together they would go to Guanzhong on a treasure hunt.

    After heaving a sigh, he slowly walked toward the pagoda. After passing through a bamboo grove, he saw the nearly fifteen zhang tall, separated into thirteen floors pagoda towering majestically over a clearing in the forest, lofty and steep, high and standing out above the trees.

    Under the splendor of the morning sun, the top of the pagoda, which was engraved with flying geese made of gold and copper appeared even more brilliant and glorious, dazzling the far and near.

    Each floor of the pagoda had its four sides embedded with twelve stone carving of Buddhist images; grand and magnificent, rich in texture.

    Xu Xiong seems to have a particular feeling toward this pagoda?

    Xu Ziling looked up at the pagoda with his hands behind his back; without even turning his head, he said indifferently, Did Miss Shi arrive last night, or did you just get here?

    Shi Feixuan came behind him and said glibly, What difference does it make? You just wanted to ask who forced An Long to come back into the Luohan Hall, am I right? This man is so repulsive; he desecrated a Buddhists sacred place. Feixuan scared him so that after this, he wont be able to sleep, as well as to pass his days peacefully. Doesnt Xu Xiong agree?

    Xu Ziling turned around to face this lucid and elegant, simple and graceful Shi Feixuan; smiling wryly, he said, I stepped on one statue and destroyed it; how will Miss punish Xiaodi?

    Shi Feixuan smiled and said, I did not see it, I did not know; Xu Xiong does not need to ask me.

    Xu Ziling slapped his forehead and laughed charmingly and said, Last night was like a dream; pretty much everything was so puzzling, so unclear. For instance, how in the world did Miss Shi startle An Long so that he came back, scaring him so that he even abandoned the Immortal Print Scroll, so much so that it was like he just saw a ghost that he covered his head and sneaked away like a rat?

    Shi Feixuan spoke gently, Last time I went to Sichuan, it was under my Masters order to go to the secluded forest in the small valley to review the Immortal Print Scroll all the way through. Although its unlikely that I will be able to master the Immortal Print method, but to imitate to twenty, thirty-percent likeness would not be difficult at all. And plus being a thief, An Long already had a guilty conscience, so that a chance encounter like that was very effective. Did it explain one of the mysteries in Xu Xiongs heart?

    Xu Ziling understood, but a new question arose in his heart, Miss Shi might as well bring the Print Scroll back to Jingzhai to be kept there, and then the dispute last night would not have happened, he said in astonishment.

    Shi Feixuan calmly and indifferently said, It was a legacy that Xiuxin Shibo passed on to Miss Qingxuan; moreover, it is the auspicious article that Shi Zhixuan wanted to use to kill people with borrowed blade. Without Miss Qingxuans consent, nobody has the right to take it out of the secluded forest in the small valley. The most difficult thing to understand this time was that how did Yang Xuyan suddenly become aware of the scrolls existence?

    Xu Ziling was stunned, Killing people with borrowed blade? he said, If Shi Zhixuan wanted to kill people, I dont understand why he did not make the move himself.

    A hint of grief smeared Shi Feixuans pretty eyebrows; she spoke in low voice, Can we walk and talk?

    Xu Ziling did not dare to walk side by side with her; he fell about two steps behind her, as together they walked along the small alley winding through the bamboo forest.

    Shi Feixuan suddenly stopped. Naturally Xu Ziling also stopped immediately. With a slight displeasure in her voice, the former said, I dont know what is your, this persons brains made of? Why dont you dare to walk side by side with Feixuan? There is no distinction of senior and junior between us; there is no distinction between master-servants even more. Do you want Feixuan to storm off in a huff and no longer pay you any attention?

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    Thanks, foxs.

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    Well, at least I got the reaction towards SZX's potential presence right, except that XZL didn't get to run after his fave girl and end up spending time with another of the girls entangled with him instead (he's becoming more and more like Duan Yu, minus the complicated family relationships).

    At the rate she's going, thanks to XZL, SFX will end up like BXX, failing to reach the Jian Xin Tong Ming stage, and getting stuck at the Xin You Ling Xi stage of the Sword Canon.

    Looking forward to the next part of the novel, where KZ will go and meet his soon-to-be FIL!

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    Thanks foxs

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    Lance23, look up 對症下藥。

    Quote Originally Posted by foxs View Post
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    Thanks foxs.

    ZXL got all the top beauties with top martial arts falling for him left and right. What a lucky dude!

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    Thks foxs.

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    Thanks foxs.
    So both of them each got half of the scroll. Wondering who got the first part, and who got the second?
    Just like in Xue Shan Fei Hu, who got the first part benefits more..

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    So it looks like sfx saw the scroll before and could make out about 20% of it bue because it was meant for the demonic path she couldnt master but could imitate it a little. Per the text thats how she scared anh long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 徐中銳 View Post
    Lance23, look up 對症下藥。
    I actually know how to read those characters. when i was growing up i took a few classes as child but didnt pay much attention to it. I regret now because in chinese restaruants the good stuff is always written in chinese. I could read maybe 30% of the characters.

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